Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with actor and podcaster Russell Brand. They discuss the language of symbols, the collective unconscious, the evolution of theology, and why so many public intellectuals are coming back to Christ.

Russell Brand is an English comedian, actor, podcaster, and commentator. He first established himself as a stand up comedian and radio host before becoming a film actor. He presented for MTV UK and made appearances across media and TV throughout the 2000’s. In 2008, he leapt from British to U.S. film acting, appearing in the hit film “Forgetting Sarah Marshall,” followed by numerous international successes. In 2013, Brand guest-edited an edition of the weekly publication the New Statesman, launching his interest and later career as a political activist and commentator. His current podcast, Stay Free, sees Brand calling out major news, governments, and corporations for affronts to free speech, expression, spirituality, and thought.

This episode was recorded on April 19th, 2024

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(0:00) Coming up
(0:27) Intro
(2:12) Statistical regularities and the language of symbols
(6:26) What makes something real?
(10:12) The necessity of sacrifice through the lens of the Bible
(12:28) Chaos, the collective unconscious, and the covenant
(19:34) Abram, the relevance of his name, and Christ
(27:25) The evolution of theology, what Acts offers
(32:35) The golden calf and the worship of pride
(39:30) A pushback on pride as the example of hedonism
(39:58) Hedonism as a god, why the self cannot spiritually govern
(47:47) What the Postmodernists got right and where they went terribly wrong
(54:01) The third temptation of Christ, the fundamental landscape
(59:48) The solution to the slave/tyrant dichotomy
(1:04:46) The consequence of using words properly and carefully
(1:12:10) Grace, suffering, acceptance: Is this the will of God?
(1:13:31) Why so many public intellectuals are coming back to Christ
(1:23:44) Huxley’s hell and the coming societal turn to what’s highest


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