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Jonathan Pageau and Gregg Hurwitz sit down with Dr. Jordan B Peterson to discuss a few of his recent controversial tweets covering topics of transgenderism, the body positivity movement, and the election of supreme court justice, Ketanji Brown Jackson. In this they seek to explore and debate how Petersons role in society, and thus how he represents himself to the public, can spark or shut down the conversation.

Hurwitz is an American novelist, screenwriter, and comic book writer. He is known for authoring the “Orphan X” series, along with a wide range of films such as “The Book of Henry” (2017) and “The Rise of Jordan Peterson” (2019). Pageau is a liturgical artist and professional icon carver, known for his work featured in museums across the world.

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- Chapters -

(0:00) Coming up
(0:17) Intro
(0:30) Foreword
(3:42) The College of Psychologists of Ontario
(5:06) Deadnaming and Twitter suspension
(6:30) Tone and YouTube
(7:25) Examples of thoughtful criticism
(15:00) Guest introductions
(18:09) The tweets in question
(23:20) Meaning of “apologia”
(25:08) The apologia begins
(27:36) Who you are and how you appear to others
(30:21) The speed of thought and reaction
(33:45) You don’t know what you’re engaging with
(36:16) Tweet No. 1
(38:43) The difference between the “short list” and race hiring
(41:16) The core issue revolves around hypocrisy
(45:31) On the topic of racism
(49:17) How the public sphere changes communication
(50:45) Greg’s dream
(1:05:25) A horror movie written by Kafka
(1:07:22) The problem with forming a perfectly balanced view
(1:10:00) The difference between left and rightwing tactics
(1:22:01) Who creates and defines beauty
(1:24:23) You tread lighter in liberal spaces
(1:28:50) Tweet No. 2
(1:34:47) Being banned from Twitter, joining the Daily Wire
(1:39:50) Ascribe the wheat or denigrate the chaff?
(1:43:31) The answer to everything
(1:44:54) Mohammad Hijab, having the conversation
(1:49:25) Actively playing the fool
(1:51:38) When you participate in your own exploitation
(1:56:30) Is Twitter a place for any discussion?
(2:00:50) Which dog do you feed?
(2:01:57) The vehemence you need to face the world
(2:03:02) The work that needs to be done

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